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Old 08-21-2009, 12:40 PM
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Hi, I'm pretty new to this hydroponic stuff and I've been looking around for a good place to start. I found this SH Hydroponics, Inc. place and was wondering if anyone here has any experience with them. They're currently doing this 5% off online code with "Grow4you" as the code, so this is also making me sway a bit in their direction, lol.

Anyone got any other sites they could maybe list for me to check out? or at least have any feedback from dealing with that stealthhydro place?

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Old 08-21-2009, 08:01 PM
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Hi, I'm pretty new to this hydroponic stuff and I've been looking around for a good place to start. I found this SH Hydroponics, Inc. place and was wondering if anyone here has any experience with them. They're currently doing this 5% off online code with "Grow4you" as the code, so this is also making me sway a bit in their direction, lol.

Anyone got any other sites they could maybe list for me to check out? or at least have any feedback from dealing with that stealthhydro place?
I have no experience with that hydro place and I don't know what type of crop you are wanting to grow hydroponically. But I would recommend building your system rather than buying a system. You will get a lot more for your money that way, and except for a few things like nutrients, growing medium, pH up/pH down and pH testers you can get just about everything you need at your local home improvement store for much less money. You can also design the system in many different ways and to accommodate any crop or plant size. Check out Simply Hydroponics to see the 6 basic types of hydroponic systems. There are hundreds of variations of these systems but all hydroponic systems are based on these types. Once you understand how they work you will see how simple and easy they are to build.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:47 PM
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I agree mostly with GpsFrontier.
Still, it's a kind of a reflex for "us" consumers to find a nice and perhaps trustful shop where to buy the whole set of our dreams. It's how it works and how things are supposed to be from an economic and business point of view.
Building your own setup isn't hard though, as soon as you have understood the principles which are actually very simple. A nutrient reservoir, a distribution system and something to hold plants. There is no complicate mechanics or electronic stuff involved. It needs to hold together and to be watertight and running, that's all! But what is so obvious for somewhat experienced people isn't necessarily the case for real beginners.

Through the web you can find many resources, building plans and much more. But no-one is able to teach you what you can only learn buy doing mistakes. There is some learning curve involved here too, that experienced people tend to forget about pretty soon. Like Francis Blake's, counting the hits and forgetting about the misses. It takes time to get to the real thing, and to understand what you are actually doing, except copying what is told and shown by others. Well, they say that being able to copy is an important part of intelligence,- so it sounds OK to just copy what looks as if it was working fine and giving good results. To build your own setup, you need at least some work space though, the required tools and some basic plumbing skills as well. Even if this sounds like an easy task under "standard conditions", it actually isn't the case at all for most people.

As I meet the requirements an wanted to save money, I haven't bought any setup but have designed and build many. I have even never used any nutrients from shelf (actually except once). I am only using self-made nutrients since I've started. Mixing your own nutrients from standard (and very cheap) components isn't very complicated either. But only recently I came to fully understand what I am actually doing and how I can improve the content and the composition. Plant nutrition is a very complex matter and extensive knowledge is required to understand what is going on biochemically. It looks easy now, but was a though way to get there.

Anyone who wants to get into hydroponics (as a 'self-builder' or a buyer) should consider that it looks easy and is easy, as long as you do not run into trouble or have a lack of discipline. Hydroponic culture needs a lot of care and discipline to work, actually more than soil culture. You need wether to follow directions literally (perhaps without understanding) or come to understand it in every detail and do it by real knowledge and conviction later. The most common mistake is that people have no clue about it, but although want to do things in their own ways. And that's never working

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Old 10-19-2009, 01:00 PM
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i have had no luck with hydro at all, the roots just die the minute they hit the matt, ive been silly enough to buy all the stuff too, ph, ec meters lamps, tanks they just droop and go yellow then die, i have tried absolutley everything, ive lost many of crops with hydro, im going back to soil
if you ask me hydro is a complete waste of time and money
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i have had no luck with hydro at all, the roots just die the minute they hit the matt, ive been silly enough to buy all the stuff too, ph, ec meters lamps, tanks they just droop and go yellow then die, i have tried absolutley everything, ive lost many of crops with hydro, im going back to soil
if you ask me hydro is a complete waste of time and money
Wish I could help you figure out what you are doing wrong. I don't know anything about what and how you are trying to grow so I don't want to make any suggestions, but you are ovuisley doing something wrong. It's a proven fact that growing hydroponically will produce better yields in a smaller space and with better quality.

I personally wouldn't spend a bunch of money buying a hydroponic system either when they are so easy to build yourself, especially if you understand what makes them work. I don't even have a PPM or TDS meter, and as for the pH I am just using the $7.95 General Hydroponics pH drops at this point. I do buy the commercially made General Hydroponics Flora series hydroponic nutrients, because I simply cant make them at this point. I also do buy grow rocks, rockwool and coco chips for a growing medium from a hydroponics store but plan to try Perlite and Vermiculite that you can get at any nursery soon. I bought a 100 pack of 3in net pots for around $25 because I didn't think I could make them for less. Everything else I get from Home Depot, Lowe's Walmart etc. because it's much cheaper.

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