Hello Tommy2525,
The reason I asked is because both are long term plants and a NFT system isn't a good choice for long term plants. Not only are they long term plants, but they need to overwinter to be fruitful. I don't know what your plan is for over wintering them in a NFT system. Not only will be overwintering an issue, but the root mass will get big and clog a 4 inch tube quickly. I would grow them in an entirely different type of system. A
drip system designed as a modeler system so the plants can be stored for the winter and the root systems be controlled and transplanted without much damage as they get bigger year after year.