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Old 01-26-2013, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GpsFrontier View Post
I'm not sure what this statement means for sure, but I'm guessing you feel you have a way to eliminate common viruses that are generally a result from the methods used to extract minerals from animal waste?
Thanks for pointing that out, I have corrected the sentence.


I believe you are clearly misunderstanding the definition of "biota" by your statements. First of all you are stating that any living organism is defined as "biota," and by default that means that any brown, green, yellow, red, slime/organism etc. is "biota," and thus is beneficial. When that clearly is not the case.

No, thats is not the case beacause , I do really understand the definition of Biota there is a product called Biota max Biota Max™ Soil Probiotic, beneficial bacteria and fungi biota [bahy-oh-tuh] - noun - the complete collection of organisms in a soil, region, or period of time

The definition of biota is:[/U]
biota /bi·o·ta/ (bi-ō´tah) all the living organisms of a particular area; the combined flora and fauna of a region.<<<< (soil or peroid of time)needs to be included.

Your nutrient reservoir is a specific place!! and your feeding cycle is a peroid of time...... I can see how it can be confusing.

This does not specify color, nor does it specify whether it is a beneficial organism, or a pathogenic organism. The term "biota" only states that there is a unknown type of living organism in a given area (ecosystem). So calling anything living in an area is technically "biota," that still doesn't define weather it's a good organism or a bad one that is living in that area. So even though calling the brown slime is technically correct by calling it biota, it's completely wrong to assume it is a beneficial organism just because it's living. And that's is where your confusion of the definition begins. Brown slimy stuff could just as easily be a buildup of pathogens, but still fall under the definition of living organisms (biota) in a given area (ecosystem), but not be beneficial to the plants at all.

Plant species alter biota in ways that lead to either positive or negative plant - biota feedback effects. In other words...... plants affect organisms in their rhizospheres, and the rhizosphere biota in turn affects the plants. The direction of the feedback depends on the relative negative effects of accumulating borne pathogens, herbivores and parasites vs the relative positive effects of accumulating mycorrhizal fungi, nitrogen fixing bacteria, and other beneficial soil organisms and the indirect effect of these plant -biota interactions on plant–plant interactions.

Well by definition biota (any living organism) will defiantly be more present in organic growing vs using synthetic fertilizers. The simple fact is that plants cant absorb nutrients unless they are broken down into the RAW CHEMICAL ELEMENT first. And organic growing relays on microorganisms (living organisms/ and not defined as good or bad) to break down the organic mater into the raw chemical elements the plants can absorb. So therefore if the organic mater is going to be useable to the plants, living organisms need to be there to break it down. With synthetic nutrients, there is no need to break it down, because it is already broken down. Therefore there is no need for the living organisms to do the job.

Biota is not just any living orginisim...... but you are correct on the rest of the statment.

But this is a contradiction. Every other time you use the term "biota" it is a beneficial organism. Why is it suddenly a bad thing if there are more living organisms than you plan on? What if there is less than 100,000 in each gallon of water it is considers beneficial, but if the numbers reach more than that their suddenly considered a bad thing? No, that's not how it works.

Because to much biota will smother your plant by consuming all the O2 in the water and when that happens all you benifical orginisims ( biota) will die then thats when the pathogens will destroy your plants

Yes heat will kill the pathogens, but at the same time it ill kill the beneficial organisms as well. This leaves the compost sterile, and subject to easy inoculation of any organisms (beneficial or pathogenic) that are introduced later (through any typical means like air borne or water born). It's only sterile as long as it's above temperature.

Which is the reason I am making a bio filter so i can catch all the Biota and return it to the compost where it will multiply and i will have the same batch of micro organisims ( biota ) in every batch of nutreint rich compost tea.

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One of the key features of compost tea is the living microbes. Do you have a plan to keep them alive in the compost tea until you use the compost tea? Or will they die within days while the compost tea is in storage before you get a chance to use it? That's the single biggest reason I haven't ventured into making compost tea, I haven't learned how to store the unused portions effectively yet.
Micro organisims dont have a very long life cycle but they do myltiply very rapidly so it idea is to keep them multiplying, in the compost.
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