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Old 08-30-2010, 06:55 PM
HydroACR HydroACR is offline
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Anyone here have any direct experience with led grow lights? The cost for them has been coming down, and I'm thinking of experimenting...

thanks!

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Old 08-31-2010, 12:14 PM
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Hey HydroACR, good to meetcha.

I started experimenting with LEDs myself about 6 months ago. I can share with you what I've discovered so far:

1. (This is the most important of all) They have a maximum distance, (Throw), that they can be used at with good results. I've found that regardless of led light type, 18 inches is the farthest you want to put the lights above your plant canopy.

Any further, and your plants will start stretching, (gaining internodal length), wildly. I tried 24 inches on some Super-Hot Peppers and the internodal length was truly awesome. Sometimes as long as 2 feet between nodes.

With the lights at 12" above the canopy, and the plants trained to maximize the canopy, the nodes tightened to only 1 inch. Quite a remarkable difference.

2. Here's one that has puzzled me to no end; I bought four 28 watt "Glow Panels". At 28 watts, they work perfectly. With the lights at 12" from the top of the canopy, I get growth that is comparable to a 400 watt hps at 24 inches.

The LED light manufacturers make lights that are up to about 300 watts per/panel now. The distance that you can use them does not change. the 300 watt LEDs *also* have to be kept no further than 18 inches from the plant canopy to be effective.

So, is the light has to stay within 18 inches of the canopy, and a 28 watt light works perfectly, then what would be gained by increasing the light to 300 watts? You would have arrived right back at the power usage that you had with standard HID lights!

Standard HID lights can be increased in power with the benefit of being able to raise them higher and gain square feet of canopy increases proportionally, thus increasing your plant yield per/additional watt.

It seems that increasing the power of LEDs will *NOT* increase anything proportionally. Perhaps an increase in fruit, but I'd have to see what increase would justify a Ten-Fold increase in power.

The growth I've had with the 28 watt LEDs is fantastic. My last crop of Super-Hots grew so fast, with so many blooms and peppers, that it blew away anything I've ever produced inside before.

My next experiment with them will be with "Tom-Thumb" lettuce. That type of lettuce only grows to a 5 inch diameter, so it will be a perfect growth crop for the 12" LED light distance. I'm going to cover the crop with my four lights, each covering 5 square feet of area, for a total of 20 square feet of lettuce.

I'm going to try a continuous harvest of lettuce by staggering the planting this 35-55 day plant at 50 plants within my 20 square feet of space with the four LEDs over them. It'll be interesting to see how well they do.

Good luck to you, HydroACR. Please post back here to let us all know how your experiments do.


EDIT: I have the seeds now for the Tom Thumb lettuce. Now to build the system. Lots of chores around my place. Being a home owner seems sometimes to be more of trying to keep the house from fallin on my head.

I'll start a thread when I get the Tom Thumb growing.

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Old 09-12-2010, 06:49 PM
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thanks for the response, I'll post up my progress and results....
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:56 PM
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I have used LED grow lights and not had as much success as HID lighting systems. I used the UFO LED system and I had to put the plants real close to the light to get results.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:11 PM
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I have used LED grow lights and not had as much success as HID lighting systems. I used the UFO LED system and I had to put the plants real close to the light to get results.
That is how LED lights work. Even with the new 3 watt LEDs and hundreds of watts of power, they still only have a maximum throw of about 18 inches.

I've found that 4 to 6 inches is the best.
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:47 PM
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That is how LED lights work. Even with the new 3 watt LEDs and hundreds of watts of power, they still only have a maximum throw of about 18 inches.

I've found that 4 to 6 inches is the best.
Nor, have you had a chance to grow the lettuce?

Also, if the throw is so low with LED, how do you compensate for a 3 foot tall plant such as a tomato or habenero? I understand the lumens from HID can push deep into the foliage and I understood the higher wattage LEDs would do the same?? I also understood a 90w UFO could penetrate a deep plant.

Your question regarding 28w vs. 300w led is very interesting indeed.

I am debating the UFO 90 or 180 as I want to move towards tomatoes and peppers requiring red spectrum. The other choice is a $160 T5 H.O. 48" x 4 bulb system with red blue mix. Such mixed reviews and polarized opinions.....what a pain, LOL!
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Default led grow llight experience

I have a lab which used to test plants growing with led grow lights. and all that lights i bought directly from one Chinese factory last year.

the light is awesome . but need time to test a satisfying result .
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:13 AM
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Default led grow llight experience

I have a lab which used to test some plants with led grow lights . all the lights i bought from one factory last year. the light it is awesome . but i think need time to test a satisfying result.
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Old 10-30-2018, 11:47 AM
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Check out Jiffy Lights on FerryMorse.com; https://ferrymorse.com/collections/hydroponic-growing-1

The light the adjustable stand and timer is good
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