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systematic approach to your nutrients, could u cut holes in a bin difference using Grorox and lava rocks?
garlic in the "11 plant system"? if you had a gallon of nutrient solution How often should I change the nutrient fluid
questions regarding aquariums. burning around the edges, enclosed greenhouse using pvc
dimensions of your 11 plants systems? bland tasting vegetables. good nutrient solution for growing with hydroponics
what do i do 2 plant the seeds how many times will I start the drip system what the ppm is suppose to be, for growing?
Date:
13 Feb 2001
Time:
19:16:03

Comments

HOT PEPPERS GROW VERY NICELY UNDER LIGHTS IN A HYDROPONIC SYSTEM. CHECK OUT www.gardenweb.com AND GO TO THE HYDROPONICS FORUM. ALSO CHECK OUT THE GROWING UNDER LIGHTS FORUM. THERE ARE SEVERAL PEPPER GROWERS THERE. RON, I REALLY AM GLAD MY FRIEND TURNED ME ON TO YOUR SITE. I AM GOING TO BUILD A SYSTEM BASED ON YOUR PLANS. THANKS CHUCK

Date:
14 Feb 2001
Time:
04:51:46

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how much would it cost to ship the 11 plant system to Canada

please right US$ if u cant get it in Canadian

40 US dollars

Date:
14 Feb 2001
Time:
13:33:56

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Hi Ron, I see you are using a generic veggie mix, you should try a systematic approach to your nutrients, the results will be worth it ! I use a mixture of the general hydro. flora series, 35% H202, Pyro-Clay, Nutrilifes "Nutriboost" product and a lil' bit of "Growth Plus". If you are interested in trying it, I have a "recipe" with weekly ratios right from cuttings through to the end of the flowering cycle. Keep it up, it's a nice site you have here.

I am lucky if I add any nutrient solution at all. To many gardens. Help! 

Date:
15 Feb 2001
Time:
02:47:24

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Re: Hot peppers in SFO

Go to http://members.nbci.com/beanpole_74

A really terrific bunch of pages documenting growing Jalapeno peppers using Rons 11 plant system.

Date:
15 Feb 2001
Time:
06:49:48

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Seems there is a cool tomato growing contest going on this year. This guy has a pretty informative site, with lots of diaries of our "hydro-friends". Check it out and sign up! (this means YOU Ron!)

http://www.boazalabama.net/Hydroweb/hydro.htm

Erik Hoover, OH me@erikhoover.net

Date:
16 Feb 2001
Time:
11:54:51

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Is it possible to grow garlic in the "11 plant system"? As I am sure it is my main concern is the watering cycle - is floating them for 15min too long a time using a regular timer (15 min on/off)? Suggestions?

Date:
22 Feb 2001
Time:
06:54:46

Comments

Just a quick comment on growing garlic hydroponically.

Don't do it! I tried, with much success, simply planted some cloves in some perlite and watered them with a simple nutrient. Under a 400 W MH light, the plants flourished.

Sounds good right?

What you may forget about it how STRONG garlic smells. The stems are easily as strong smelling as the cloves.

So if you don't mind stinking up your grow room. (Or maybe you'd like to cover up the smell of something else!) then go for it. I can tell you after about a month, I came home and my wife had went into the basement and pitched the whole lot! :)

So much for hydro-garlic!

Erik me@erikhoover.net

I bet you didn't have a vampire problem.

Date:
17 Feb 2001
Time:
09:56:11

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Ron, Trialbozz here from Victoria BC. I've been reading your discussion board and must say it has answered many questions I have had. I noticed you have shied away from questions regarding aquariums. 
I have a 50 gal tank and have a filtering problem and have been looking to hydroponics to solve it. 
As a test I am going to set up a one or two plant system using the gurgle garden setup just as a test. 
I have read peoples problems with the air pump working so i just did a little experiment and solved the problem of the flow not working. 
When I first installed the tee in the airline the air just shot right past it. 
So as a solution I took an old film canister and one of the aquarium fittings ( the clear kind used to mount air stones to the end of the hose ) I took and cut the air stone part flush with the shoulder on the fitting. 
Then I drilled a hole one size too small for the other end of the fitting to fit through and forced it through the hole from the inside of the film canister. 
Then I used a small piece of tubing just long enough to slip over the end sticking out of the canister bottom and attach it to one of the ends at the top of the tee. 
Then as in your diagram attached one end to my air pump and the other end goes to the plant.
Then using a suction cup mount for air hose mounted the whole thing open end down at the lowest point I could. This delivered about two ounces of water per min depending on how much air I feed to the canister. 
The reason this works is the canister fills with air to the point that the pressure is enough to push the water through the air line. 
Once the air has cleared the chamber water fills the line until the air pressure builds again. 
Hope this helps some of you out there. Cheap it is but hey it worked. If you are interested I'll keep you posted as to how the aquarium/hydroponic thing works.

ttfn Trailbozz

Date:
17 Feb 2001
Time:
10:14:54

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Ron, Tbozz again, If you would like a diagram I would be more then happy to make one up for you. And keep up the good work

sure would  

Date:
17 Feb 2001
Time:
18:19:46

Comments

can u use seeds just from a pepper thats what i'm doing in my new drip system

go for it

Date:
17 Feb 2001
Time:
18:57:21

Comments

Can co2 be mixed & pumped with the oxygen directly to the roots

no! stop sucking on that bottle of co2.

Date:
18 Feb 2001
Time:
22:50:30

Comments

Hi Ron, What are the dimensions of your 11 plants systems? (Length X Width of the piping only) I'm thinking of building a housing for the 11 plant systems. Thanks!!

Let me get my damn measuring tape out again. Would someone write this down so I don't have to do it again. 
35" X 17" pipe only no bottles.

Date:
19 Feb 2001
Time:
17:34:32

Comments

Hi!

It's to my understanding that the term hydroponics means using an inert growing medium and feeding a nutrient solution, correct? 
yes
I germinated seeds each in it's own rockwool and it sprouted out of the cube in 3 days. I then placed each cube in a 6" pot w/ holes in the bottom containing vermiculite. I have a nutrient solution that includes the correct amount of hydrogen peroxide. I place 3 pots per 2 foot holding tray thats about 3" deep. If I pour the nutrient solution in the tray, the vermiculite should act like a wick and suck the solution up correct? Will this system work for me?
maybe. if you want insurance call Lords of London.

Date:

21 Feb 2001
Time:
00:47:59

Comments

ok i have the 11 plant garden but then what do i do 2 plant the seeds what do i use

vermiculite to start your seeds then transplant them to the garden when they are 3 or 4 inches tall.

Date:
21 Feb 2001
Time:
05:08:56

Comments

could u cut holes in the bottom of a bin and then put your plants in with perlite, rockwool, growrocks etc. in pots and just flood it with a nutrient solution and then it would be ebb and flow

Yes it would. It is as simple as that. Rubbermaid containers, a submersible pump, grow medium, hydroponic nutrient solution and you got yourself a hydroponic garden. 

Date:
21 Feb 2001
Time:
12:55:19

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Ron, Trailbozz here, One quick question, if you had a gallon of nutrient solution and only replaced the water that was used how long would it take for the plant growing in it to use up all the nutrients leaving only water behind? And yes i understand it would vary depending on how many plants So use say one Oregano plant for this question.

Thanks in advance

I don't know.

PS I would also like to offer my drafting skills and 3d rendering skills to you. If you would like to send me drafts of your projects i could whip up AutoCAD and Bryce renderings for you

Now that the kind of skills I'm looking for. I sure could use some help. E-mail me with what you need to get stated.
Also looking for members with software skills to make interactive how to CD's. Can you say stock option?   
 

Date:
22 Feb 2001
Time:
17:25:06

Comments

Trailbozz: First I would like to applaud you for offering your skills to Ron. Many of us are reluctant to offer help or answer questions because we are his students. I do not understand how he is able to keep up his load. All of the members owe so much to him. IMHO the Oregano plant would use up the macronutrients (NPK) before the first gal of water would be replaced. The other nutrients (MG,S,Fe,Zn,Cu,Mo,C,) would be used up as the gal was replaced. Ca,B, would be used up at a slower rate. When you take a Ec/PPm reading after a few days, most of what you are reading is Ca,B,. The other nutrients are in the plant where they are supposed to be and not in solution. There are many variables as to how much water and nutrients a plant takes up that it could not be discussed here in such short space. The point to remember is that after the original gal has been used in your question you would dump the solution and add fresh ferts. If you had a 10 gal tank you would add water untill you added back 10 gals and then you would dump and make a fresh batch of ferts. This is one of the reasons that growers opt for large holding tanks. It would make little difference in this method whether you had 10 plants or 1. The change would come after the 10 gals. If you had more or less light, higher or lower humidity, more or less mature plants or other factors the change would still come after the fillback of 10 gals because this method will take into account all of the above. Good Growing Nurse Duckett

who is the teacher and who is the student?

Date:
22 Feb 2001
Time:
21:23:50

Comments

The leaves on the plants in my hydro set-up are discoloring and appear to be burning around the edges, I don't think the lights are to close to the plants. Could you suggest any other causes of such a problem?

Might be to strong of a mix. That can cause burning around the edges. 

Date:
23 Feb 2001
Time:
09:55:47

Comments

Hi, Hydroponics has often been blamed for producing bland tasting vegetables. I've solved this problem by using organic nutrients rather than chemical nutrients. Everything I grow now tastes better than any home soil garden vegetable. I've tried everything and it seems the product that works best is Metanaturals by Bella Via. I found them at www.Metanaturals.com

my hydro tomatoes ain't been blamed for nothing. what you talking about Willis? you talk like a damn commercial.  

Date:
23 Feb 2001
Time:
12:29:14

Comments

Hi Ron. First, congratulations for you and for your Pipe Dreams site. I've learned a lot of things (almost all I know ...!) on your Website. I have two questions: * I'm thinking of building a 1 gallon system with growrocks, but the "pipes" will be used only for draining. The water will be emitted by a drip system. My question is : how long, and how many times will I start the drip system, because I think that the drip system emit less water than the classic Ebb & Flow system. * My second question is: what is the difference between the WHITE PVC and the GREY PVC (both are plumbing pipes), and is the gray one good for a 1 gallon system. I live in France, and the WHITE PVC is hard to find and more expensive. Thank you for your site again.

I drip for 15 minutes on 15 minutes off 24/7.
I don't know about France but here in the US gray pipe cost more. It doesn't matter if it's pink. PVC pipe is PVC pipe.

Date:
23 Feb 2001
Time:
19:42:52

Comments

Hi, Is there a big difference using Grorox and using lava rocks? If so what are the benefits of each, versus the disadvantages? Thank you!

Yes Grorox are better because they were designed just for growing plants and lava rocks were designed by a volcano.  

Date:
24 Feb 2001
Time:
04:56:23

Comments

Ron: I signed on early with you and have really enjoyed the ride. If you are in doubt who the teacher is, then read my early posts. That is if you promise not to laugh. Oh you answered those early posts with patience and sarcasm just like you do now he he Nurse Duckett.

Date:
24 Feb 2001
Time:
08:30:31

Comments

How often should I change the nutrient fluid used in an active recirculated system? I am worried that I won't change it often enough, or that I will change it too often and waste money on it...

Every two weeks or when your water gets low, which ever comes first.   

Date:
26 Feb 2001
Time:
04:59:26

Comments

pertaining to the question concerning changing nutrient solution. the books say to do so but if you keep the level down fairly low, I don't think it is necessary. I have never changed mine .i just add water & adjust tds level & then ph.like ron,if i am strapped for time i just add plain water until i can take the time to adjust properly. look at my pics in the members projects & those plants don't appear to be in need of anything. just my opinion, george in fl <bmmcnaught@usa.net>

Date:
26 Feb 2001
Time:
07:05:13

Comments

Happy Monday,

Just added some pictures of my little basement garden. Feel free to comment!

http://www.erikhoover.net/hydroponics/index.shtml

Happy Growing!

Erik me@erikhoover.net

Date:
26 Feb 2001
Time:
19:27:58

Comments

hey ron i just built the infamous 11 plant garden system and i was wondering were i could find some plans for free to build an inclosed greenhouse using pvc piping. if u could give me any information, it would be greatley appreciated! thanx for your assistance.

Date:
27 Feb 2001
Time:
17:26:13

Comments

free pvc greenhouse plans<www.bae.ncsu.edu/programs/extension/publicat/postharv/index> go to bottom of page & click on "small backyard greenhouse"see pics on members projects page,george.

Date:
26 Feb 2001
Time:
19:29:59

Comments

hey ron

what would be a good nutrient solution for growing with hydroponics 

p.s. i built your 11 plant hydro system if it makes a difference. thanx for your assistance

Liquid hydroponic mixes cost more but are easier to use than powdered water soluble mixes. But as long as they are formulated for hydroponics and not dirt and you follow the direction on the label then all it comes down to is ease of use. 

Date:
27 Feb 2001
Time:
15:12:28

Comments

Hi, I saw that you were looking for members with software skills to make interactive how to CD's. I have the html skills and CD burner if you wanted to put something together in a web site format. Let me know if you are interested. Marty a1b2c3@a1b2c3.com

I'm looking more in the line of 3D game developer. You know the geeks who make all those games. 
Also looking for Flash programmers. 

Date:
01 Mar 2001
Time:
05:50:18

Comments

hi,im using the ionic grow solution, dose anyone know what the ppm is suppose to be, for growing? directions on the bottle only shows ph, and ec, the target for the ec is 2.0 ms/cm.and i don't know what that means. help. i bought a ppm meter, do i need to take back and get ec meter. thanks for the help.

Date:
02 Mar 2001
Time:
16:23:52

Comments

Hello: In answer to you Ec/PPm question. 2.0 ms/cm =680ppm x 2.0 ms/cm =1360ppm. This would depend on your brand of pen. Most pens have different conversion factors. Your pen should have the conversion factors listed in the tech stats that came with the pen. Conversion factors range from 500ppm to 700ppm =1.0 ms/cm. Ppm pens are alright for measuring TDS (total dissolved salts), but do not give exact measurements when detecting the conductivity of different nutrient salts. The 2.0 ms/cm =1360ppm seems right for tomatoes in water culture. I prefer the EC pen, but keep your pen for it will work fine. Nurse Duckett

EC & TDS





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