This saddle would beperfect for a beginner who doesn\'t want to spend a ton of money on a saddle. Medium size tree.Was bought as an extra and was told it was an 18\", but I measure it at 17.5. Please see pictures and judge for yourself. as I am not a saddle expert.It is in near new condition.It is too big and doesn\'t fit any of the riders out here so ithas barely been used. Great as a beginner or as an extra saddle.Saddle only. Pads are not included. Please ask all questions before offerding as I do not offer refunds or exchanges. Please do not expect a high dollar name brand saddle as this is a beginner/ starter type saddle.Also please note that I charge a flat rate for shipping which is only an estimate. Actual postage may be more or less. By offerding you are agreeing with my shipping and handling charge. Payment is expected within 3 days of sale ending. Thanks!

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