"i know for a fact that 20/24 lighting is the best for veg"
I'm going to pull a GPS here and say "show me the study and re-creatable experiment."
"i also know that
led is not up to scratch with a 1000w met hal, or 1000w
hps"
1000w of LED will destroy 1000w HID all day long. Wait for my new quantum meter order and I'll be happy to demonstrate the superiority of LED in EVERY possible measure. I have access to the right equipment to safely say you're not talking any amount of truth.
YouTube - Commercial Grow using LED grow lights
That guy and his massive LED buds will tell you the exact same thing.
You're simply not talking any amount of truth, here. THAT is black and white.