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[CAPT38]

Originally Posted by GpsFrontier

DanHass,
This is a Hydroponics forum. We grow plants hydroponically, not in soil. The growing medium in hydroponics doesn't have any nutritional value for the plants. It's designed that way because the plants get all their nutrition from the balanced nutrient solution. Mixing soil in a hydroponic system disturbs the balance of those nutrients, leading to nutrient toxicities.

creedua,
I prefer using coco chips almost always as a growing media. For the nutrients I would use the Verti-gro nutrients.

Golden tree is a hydroponic nutrient GPS

[GpsFrontier]

It's true that I am not familiar with any nutrients called 'Golden tree" (and still don't). However that wasn't what lead me to the conclusion that they were talking about growing in soil. There were three statements that lead me to believe that:

1. "using natural compost" (that's not a nutrient solution)
2. "Why you should prefer compost to commercial fertilizers" (again compost is an amendment, not a nutrient solution. even as a compost tea that was never mentioned)
3. "consider using a quality nutrient additive" (a nutrient additive isn't a replacement for a nutrient solution, it's an amendment even in soil)

[CAPT38]

Originally Posted by GpsFrontier

It's true that I am not familiar with any nutrients called 'Golden tree" (and still don't). However that wasn't what lead me to the conclusion that they were talking about growing in soil. There were three statements that lead me to believe that:

1. "using natural compost" (that's not a nutrient solution)
2. "Why you should prefer compost to commercial fertilizers" (again compost is an amendment, not a nutrient solution. even as a compost tea that was never mentioned)
3. "consider using a quality nutrient additive" (a nutrient additive isn't a replacement for a nutrient solution, it's an amendment even in soil)

You may want to read about the Golden Tree product before you commenting then.

[GpsFrontier]

I don't have time to research everything anyone mentions. I don't get paid to do so, and like you I only post and reply because I want to try and help people. If there are any things I don't obviously understand, their more than welcome to correct me. But it's not my job to research every statement that people post.

I simply left a comment, and they never replied to it. Your reply/s simply haven't changed a thing so far either. Other than you let me know there may be a hydroponic nutrient that I don't know about. But that's no surprise, there are thousands of manufactures making nutrients. I'm not an Encyclopedia of hydroponic nutrients and I'm not paid to be.

I'm always looking for alternative cost effective nutrients, but I'm simply really only interested in "COST EFFECTIVE NUTRIENTS". But keep in mind that I have a LOT of things going on in my life right now , and many things on my plats, so researching something mentioned in a random post is well below the bottom of the list right now (regardless of if I have heard of it or not). If the poster isn't able to let me know how or why I may be wrong or misunderstand their comments, then sorry. That's their problem, and they may be to busy to do so as well. But It's still simply not my job to spend hours researching every post. That's their job.

[Stan]

Originally Posted by CAPT38

You may want to read about the Golden Tree product before you commenting then.

After seeing the price of the Golden Tree product ($290 for 1 gallon) I don't even want to know how it works. The "cheap cost" nutrients I have been using the past 3 years have worked just fine for me.

[CAPT38]

Originally Posted by Stan

After seeing the price of the Golden Tree product ($290 for 1 gallon) I don't even want to know how it works. The "cheap cost" nutrients I have been using the past 3 years have worked just fine for me.

A gallon is expensive, but I think that most people wouldn't need a whole gallon, as per the instructions you only use 2 ml per gallon of water.

[GpsFrontier]

Assuming the stuff is a complete hydroponic nutrient, and not just an additive, and/or need other parts to work well. If the stuff costs $290 per gallon, that's not what I would really consider cost effective. That comes out to 15 cents per gallon of nutrient solution.

237mL per cup
16 cups per gallon
237x16= 3792
3792 divided by 2 (capt38 said 2mL per gallon)= 1896
$290 divided by 1896= $0.15 per gallon

I don't know if that even includes tax and shipping, If not it would just cost that much more. I prefer to use nutrients like the verti-gro and/or JRPeters nutrients that cost around $0.02 per gallon of nutrient solution. Going by the price Stan gave of the Golden Tree stuff, It's more than 7 times more expensive. Not to mention you need to shell out a large chunk of money right up front.

Even if I wanted to pay as much as $0.15 cents per gallon of nutrient solution. I would just use GH MaxiGro/MaxiBloom nutrients. Depending on the size and price where you get it, the Maxi nutrients come out to between $0.10 and $0.15 cents per gallon of nutrient solution. And you don't need to shell out $300 all at once. You can just buy the small 2.2 lb quantity for about $15 or less.

[CAPT38]

I've always heard .... You get what you pay for.

The golden tree product in question is an additive.

But if you want to go cheap you should start brewing compost teas. And if you haven't tried compost teas I would suggest you give it a try.