My Very First Setup

[oTOMMYo]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy216

Hey Tommy Here and Update.. Sorry to say I had to yank one of the plants it just didn't look az good az this one do . I Figure It May Have Been Diseased bad seed I guess but here look at root mass and plant itself Attachment 2733

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What's wrong with it?

[Bigdaddy216]

lets see for one ,, yellowing was progressing no2 plant was green but kinda crinkly no3. leaves started drooping or folding in as it drooped... my thought was infected seed or maybe I didn't catch ph level in time ,,

[GpsFrontier]

I don't know if it's the lighting or not, but it looks a little on the yellow side. It may just be recovering, or still have a problem. Did you get the right kind of pH drops yet? Now that the seedlings are getting bigger, I would probably up the nutrients to about 2/3 to 3/4 strength. They should start growing quickly if their getting enough light.


Also, I was looking for new articles today when I came across these three that I think you may find useful.

Control Yourself: Understanding the Basics of Indoor Climate Control

What’s the Problem? Hydroponic Troubleshooting

Cultivating Cucumbers

P.S.
Bigdaddy216, did you get the e-mail I sent you. If not, I can re-send it..

[Bigdaddy216]

Originally Posted by GpsFrontier

I don't know if it's the lighting or not, but it looks a little on the yellow side. It may just be recovering, or still have a problem. Did you get the right kind of pH drops yet? Now that the seedlings are getting bigger, I would probably up the nutrients to about 2/3 to 3/4 strength. They should start growing quickly if their getting enough light.


Also, I was looking for new articles today when I came across these three that I think you may find useful.

Control Yourself: Understanding the Basics of Indoor Climate Control

What’s the Problem? Hydroponic Troubleshooting

Cultivating Cucumbers

P.S.
Bigdaddy216, did you get the e-mail I sent you. If not, I can re-send it..

Thanks For The Links I Got Them All... As For The PH Yes I Rechecked It 4 Times Before & After I Added Nutrients I Found My PH To Be Way Too Low So I Got It Between 5.5 & 5.8 ...i totally changed out nutrients to half strength,, but I think I'm just go switch brands of nutrients to general hydroponics because they have a mixing chart for all stages and i think that's where my problem lays because i believe i have a nutrient lock out because i seen some other picture and look same as mines they said when lok like that its a potassium issue or phosphate i think

[GpsFrontier]

nutrient lockout is not due to the brand of nutrients you use. Nutrient lockout is due to two things,
1. improper pH,
2. mixing them incorrectly. And by that I mean combining parts together (A and B etc..) at to high of a concentrations. If you mix them in the full volume of water you intend to use, that will never happen.


HOW ARE YOU TESTING YOUR pH now???

If you choose to use the same pH drops you were using, you will never be able to get your pH correct. I'm just trying to save you time, money, effort, and frustration. But I'm wasting my time if I don't know the basics.......

[Bigdaddy216]

Originally Posted by GpsFrontier

Nutrient lockout is not due to the brand of nutrients you use. Nutrient lockout is due to two things,
1. improper pH,
2. mixing them incorrectly. And by that I mean combining parts together (A and B etc..) at to high of a concentrations. If you mix them in the full volume of water you intend to use, that will never happen.


HOW ARE YOU TESTING YOUR pH now???

If you choose to use the same pH drops you were using, you will never be able to get your pH correct. I'm just trying to save you time, money, effort, and frustration. But I'm wasting my time if I don't know the basics.......

I Hear Everything You Saying This all Why I am Going To Buy New Next Monday Pay Day,, Like You Said Its My Mixing & Having wrong Ph Test Kit,, See its like I have said my math is bad that's why im switching to GH they have it all figured out the measurement part and heres what I be buying General Hydroponics pH Test Kit 1 oz $4.90

PH Up Liquid Adjusting Solution Quart $6.90
PH Down Liquid Adjusting Solution Quart $6.90
General Hydroponics FloraGro Quart $7.90
General Hydroponics FloraBloom Quart $7.90
General Hydroponics FloraMicro Quart $9.90
General Hydroponics - CALiMAGic Quart $9.90
T5 Ho 8 tube Fixture 40,000 lumen

For Me I'm Doing Good Learning process For Me

[GpsFrontier]

OK,
That's a really good price on the general hydroponics pH testing kit. Usually they run $6.95 to $8.95.

You do need some pH adjusters. I assumed you already had some otherwise how are you trying to adjust them? If you already have some I'm not sure why you would spend more money when you don't need to.

Also I don't think you have a problem with the brand of nutrients you are using. But if you have the extra money to spend, and want to buy the flora series nutrients, go for it. their good nutrients (just expensive). If so don't bother much with their mixing chart. For full strength nutrient solution, use equal amounts 10 ml per gallon of each part for continuously fruiting plants like cucumbers. I have used the flora series a lot myself in the past. But if you don't have extra money to spend don't bother. If you really need help with the math of what you already have, I will help you with it so you don't need to spend money you don't need to.

You also simply don't need to spend money on any cal mag product. It is good in some circumstances, but not in your case. Especially if you don't have money to waste. You can add all the cal mag you want, but the plants will never be able to take it up if the pH is incorrect, and just adding more wont make them use more. They only take what they need, and any balanced nutrient solution will already have plenty in it.

You can test the pH all you want, but if you don't use the right drops you still don't know what your pH is. I've been trying to get that across to you, but you keep avoiding it. Even telling me your pH is between 5.5 and 5.8, and I know that's not true because you cant be that accurate with drops (even GH drops), and the drops you do have don't even go below 6.0. So unless you bought or borrowed a pH meter you couldn't even come close to telling that range correctly. If you did barrow one, Then I would ask how you know it's calibrated correctly, and functioning correctly.

The only thing you need right now is to get the pH drops so you can actualy tell what the pH is. Bottom line, if I were you I wouldn't waste money on anything on your list right now except the pH drops (and I guess the T'5 if you want to try using them). Once you get the pH drops and test your nutrient solution with it, we can see where you are at that point. Tell then there is nothing to do but wait for the right information.

P. S.
Yes your doing fine learning, just keep in mind I just can't help you if I don't have accurate information to work from.