Tomato's bottom leaves wilded and dry

[GpsFrontier]

You don't care about my thoughts, you've proven that. That's why you ignored my efforts to help you in the first place. I gave some general advice, then asked you a list of questions to help narrow down what is causing your pH issue on 2/16/16 and you ignored the questions. I know you saw them because I could tell by your profile you visited the forum, and specifically that thread more than once shortly after I posted them. If you didn't want to waste my time you wouldn't have posted the problem you were having, and then just IGNORED me when I tried to help. You would have answers the questions (even if you didn't think the answers would lead to anything), in hopes of finding out something useful. But you just didn't want to be bothered, thus a waste of my time.

I have NOT ignored you -- I can't -- you have not made a statement since you posted your questions.

That's exactly the point. I asked you a series of questions to help me narrow down what exactly is causing your pH issue AND YOU IGNORED THEM!!!!!!!! You repeatedly visited the forum and never once bothered to answer ANY of them, you didn't even make an attempt to try. You just continued to IGNORE MY ATTEMPT TO HELP YOU. I cant give you advice on what's wrong and how to fix it until I know the until answers to the questions, because I don't just cover things up, I fix what's wrong and causing the problem in the first place. You just IGNORED THEM/ME. Why would I post anything after the questions, you didn't answer the questions, and give me something to reply to.

I have answered every question you have asked but you have nothing

To little to late. You didn't bother until today to answer the questions I needed answered to help you get the basics right, and thus fix your pH problem. I know you visited the forum and that thread many times, and just didn't bother to even try to help me help you,

You may have finally answered the questions, but it's to little to late for me. I didn't waste more time to read the belated reply's. I didn't read anything past the first sentence. Because like I already told you, when someone wastes my time, I don't care to spend any more time on them.

[jhinkle]

I feel sorry for you.

Your current behavior is one of someone that has put them self on a pedestal of all knowing. When someone does not bow in reverence, you rant and rave about nothing.

You rant that my direction is wrong, that I don't understand and only you can provide the answers -- but when asked to provide -- you rant that I ignored you and now as punishment you are not going to respond.

Yes I did look at your questions. I was faced with a system that had a PH level above 9.0 and and had yourself asking questions that provided no direction towards a solution.

I have a good understanding of chemistry and hydroponics. My original post was about the way my tomato plants looked -- it was there that you directed me to empty my tank and begin anew. I did not agree with your statement, but I admit to being wrong at times -- so I purged the tank and began again. When the same situation raised it's head shortly thereafter I then knew that your direction was in error. The 10+ questions you are so upset that I did not respond to were heading it the same direction as your first comments -- which I had concluded were wrong.

I implemented my solution and all facts as of today indicates that I have properly identified root-cause and identified an acceptable solution. You appear not to like that as your last three posts are just rantings about how you were ignored and I'm wrong.

Why is it that you are so upset that I did not reply to you within the 24 hours I took to solve my own problem?

I will thank to again for your comments on fungus and plant ailments from my first post and on the papers you emailed me. I though this was a great site and you were a helpful individual. I'm sorry to say it has gone down hill from there.

I wish you luck in the future and hope the heart ache I have caused you by not agreeing with your comments subsides soon.

Life is too short - be well!

[GpsFrontier]

Again you haven't solved anything, you just put a band aid on the problem to cover it up. The only reason you think the questions I asked weren't going in the right direction is because you don't have a grasp of the basics to understand why I asked each question in the first place. Much less how their related to, and affect pH. No mater what you do, unless you find the problem, you can't fix the problem. Again I don't cover things up, I fix the issue that's causing the problem.... Something you don't care about.

Not wasting my time to look over your belated reply's isn't a punishment (perhaps to you it is), it's a simple mater of common sense. You didn't care about my thoughts, recommendations, and reasoning before you think you solved something, there's no reason why you would you care about them now? That's just common sense. Taking the time to go through it now to give detailed reply to each question would be nothing but a waste of my time because you couldn't care less anyway. Your just upset because you finally took the time to reply to the questions, and I don't care anymore. Welcome to the club, now you know how I feel.

The fact that you looked for answers elsewhere only bothers me for one reason. It shows me that you obviously were still actively looking for answers, but you just didn't want to bother answering some questions to find out. Therefor wasting my time. That's why you ignored me trying to help you, and didn't want to bother answering the questions that would help me solve your issue. Again, you didn't care about my thoughts before, you don't care about them now. Therefor, there is no reason for me to take the time to bother going through the belated reply's. it's as simple as that. If you don't want help, don't ask for help.

You think you solved your problem, but you still don't have a clue what your problem is. Why? Because you still haven't found what is causing the drastic pH swings in the first place. You think as long as you don't readily see it (put a band-aid on it), the problem is fixed. Putting a picture over a hole in the wall makes it go away, but it still doesn't fix the hole in the wall. I can't help you (or anybody else) until you want to be helped. And trying to help people that don't want to be helped is just a waste of time no mater how you look at it. If your doctor repeated tells you need to quit smoking or your going to die, how long do you think he is going to try and help you when you don't care enough to hep yourself.

You need to get the basics right first. If not, you'll just be chasing problems with no understanding of why. It takes some people longer to get through the learning curve. It's up to you how long it takes. But I can't help people that don't want to be helped.

[jhinkle]

I'm shaking my head.

Your behavior is like a child having a temper tantrum.

I'm sorry you are so hurt.

To help you heal, I will not ask any more for your help. I will not ask for your comments. I will not ask that you share your abundance of knowledge.

I only hope that you mature a little so that the next individual that comes to this site and disagrees/upsets you is treated in a more professional manner.

It appears my band-aid has fallen off and indeed the issue has been resolved -- your help no longer required nor asked for.

Be well.

[GpsFrontier]

The original issue is still there, your just blind to it because you put a picture in front of the hole in the wall. Your so blind you wont even know when the band-aid does falls off because you haven't figured out yet that the makeshift fix only opens the door for other problems. So you wont know what your looking at when the band-aid does fall off. You'll just keep chasing your tail as you go along. COVERING IT UP DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM.

Perhaps you don't read so well, as I already stated twice now: "When someone wastes my time, I don't care to spend any more time on them." That means I WAS NEVER GOING TO TRY AND HELP YOU AGAIN, but rather just IGNORE YOUR PROBLEMS LIKE YOU IGNORED ME. And again, that's not a punishment, it's just common scene. When someone doesn't care for your help, it's a waste of time to try and help them.

You can't see beyond your Donald Dump sized EGO. But I couldn't care less if you disagree with me, their your plants, not mine. You can do what you want with them. There are plenty of people that choose not to take my advice or have different opinions, and I don't take issue with any of them. What I do take issue with is people that wast my time, and are rude and disrespectful towards others. That's a huge problem that I do take issue with.

When someone post a problem, I try and help. If I don't have enough information, I'll ask questions to get that information. Once I have enough information, I'll give them my opinion on what the issue is, and how to fix it. What they do with that information is up to them. If someone is on the wrong path to fixing their problems, has come to some wrong conclusions, or just posts information about their systems that may lead to potential problems, I will reply and address those points. Once again, what they do with that information is up to them. If they repeatedly don't take my advice, I just don't bother to try and help them anymore. Not as punishment, simply because it isn't doing any good and I don't want to waste any more of my time.

My problem isn't that you didn't reply in 24 hours, many people aren't able to reply for days (sometimes weeks) for one reason or another. My problem isn't that you think you fixed your problem, and I know you haven't. It's your learning curve, not mine. My problem isn't that you disagree with me about what the problem is, as well as whether you fixed it or not. Again, their your plants, and it's your learning curve, not mine.

My problem is with your rude attitude, and lack of respect for other people. Especially those that are just trying to help you. When someone try's to help you, you don't just ignore them wasting their time and treating them disrespectfully. That's my problem with you and it's a big problem. But like Donald Dump, you cant see beyond your big fat EGO, so you have to make excuse to cover up the facts and justify your disrespectful behavior.