My third system

[jamromhem]

it makes complete sense to me lol. the need to get what you need done is more important lol.. And worst case.. the bees are sensitive to temperatures and will return to their hive in certain temperature/humidity conditions. They don't waist their energy if they think the conditions are less than favorable to get what they want from the plants as well... You might be able to use that to your advantage and change the temp/humidity to make them return to their hive when you need to run maintenance to minimize risk as well.

I have also considered getting bees myself when I get out of the apartments, and get myself some land. I havent made a final decision yet, but I think I might. I am considering building indoor grow systems as well, and would be in a similar situation. I am in Florida and would prefer to still be growing and not lose all my maters if a hurricane comes through lol... I have a ton of ideas on how I might set up the growing areas. My ideas are very contained and controlled.... More so than many like to be lol... I guess I am just more into the over doing it than doing what is needed.

[fintuckyfarms]

I have the shot cuz I stop breathing....

If you mix in meat tenderizer in with the baking soda into a really wet paste it helps pull the toxin out the injection site then add ice right way it will slow any reaction except for the whole breathing stoppage thing.

It is a baby cantalope and it's about 4 inches long now. AND as it happens I'm alergic to them too, but my son loves them.

[jamromhem]

LOL your just all about the things that hate you lol.. I also keep drawing salve and tobacco on hand for such occasions as well. The drawing salve is a black tar-like substance. tobacco helps when applied moist to the location of the sting. Similarly just drawing out the toxin, but the chemicals in it also help slow the bloodflow of the area as well (constricting arteries as tobacco does so well)

I think my worst reaction is to yellow jackets.. I get some crazy pain throughout my whole body (I have had kidney stones and think the sting is worse) and then black out. It is probably a very interesting alergy if nothing else lol.. My nervous system doesnt like their toxin at all.

[GpsFrontier]

Your reactions are worse than mine fintuckyfarms, I have never stopped breathing before, or even had breathing problems from it I that remember. My skin quickly swells up, and turns leather hard. My whole limb/s will swell up to twice their normal size. But I am concerned that if I get stung in the neck or head, my throat could swell up and choke me to death, because I swell up so bad. But I know the severity of reaction changes over time, and with how often your stung. I haven't been stung in about 20 years, so it's hard to say how my body will react now.

Ya I used the baking soda as a paste over the sting, but I never knew meat tenderizer will help draw out the poison too. I had a friend many years back who smoked that was allergic too, and he told me about using tobacco in a paste as well. But I don't smoke so I don't usually have any cigarettes handy. But If I'm ever away from the house and get stung, I'm sure there is someone near by that does smoke. Or at least a store I can buy a pack of cigarettes from. I always take a first aid kit with that stuff with me when I go camping.

One time I was camping at J-tree national park (we go there a lot), and we climbed to the top of a rock formation in our campground. We were climbing down and went around a corner. Right in front of me, 10-20 feet away was a large swarming bee hive (not killer bees or they would have attacked). It was right in the middle of the only path down on that side of the rock formation. The worst part was I had to go to the bathroom (that's why we were climbing down), and I could see the port-a-potty about 100 feet or so away. But we had to slowly back out and go all the way around the rock formation. There would have been no way through without being stung hundreds of times (just no other option).

P.S.
Now that you mention it jamromhem, I have some of that drawing save around here somewhere. I forget what I bought it for, but I remember using that black tar looking stuff. It kind of stinks too. I hadn't thought about that as an option before, but I have some somewhere.

[fintuckyfarms]

The last time I got bit by something out in the pasture I had hives for 10 days and breathing problems for 4 days. I had to go back to the er 4 times for shots and IV's to regulate my breathing and blood pressure. I still don't know what it was, nothing with a stinger anyway. I missed almost 2 weeks of work.

[jamromhem]

ouch. that is worse than any reaction I have. I am good after the first ER visit on my worst reactions usually.

Yes GPS it does stink some lol. It is often used for systs, bites, infections. All sorts of things that have toxins you want out lol.. My family keeps it on hand because we are used to living with brown recluses, small brown scorpions, and the like. Not to mention I have a niece (about 3 now I think) that keeps getting systs. We are not sure where they come from, but she gets them bad...

I would have had to go pretty bad to go past the bee hive, depending on just how close I had to get lol. I have a tendancy to hike with a set of long cloths in the pack for such reasons lol.

I think the oddest thing is with my alergies to those flying stinging things... I can play in poison ivy and oak and never have an itch lol..

[GpsFrontier]

Ya, there was no questions about it for us, we weren't going through the bee hive. The pathway (which was really a rock leaning agents a rock) led around a corner. Around the corner there was another rock leaning agents the larger rock we were coming down. Creating a short of tunnel. The tunnel was about 5 feet wide, and about 8-10 feet tall, and about 5 feet long. The only pathway we could take went right through the tunnel, and the bee hive was inside the tunnel. There was no way around it. Well at least not without a good chance of severe injury from falling off the rock formation without some climbing gear (we didn't have at the time). And the drop was at least a good 50 feet or so. So the only question in my mind was if I was going to be able to make it all the way around the rock formation before, well you know. Luckily I made it.